In History Lessons: How Textbooks Around the World Portray American History, authors Dana Lindelman and Kyle Ward note that "we live in extraordinary times. Through our televisions, compuiters, radios and newsprint we have access to what seems like the entire world....What this instant access reveals to us is that people and groups around the world are very unique... One way to begin to understand these diverse societies is to look at their history, how time has formed them and who they are." The authors go on to point out that "It is ironic, that, today. many history classes in theUnited States are taught form an isolationist standpoint, where events in US history are portrayed as if they occurred in a historical vacuum. If other nations are mentioned in US History textbooks it is often only within the context of the impact of US foreign policy or from the viewpoint of US interests." (Lindaman and Ward, 2004.)
From this perspective, History Lessons promotes comparative history; examining events in US history through the lenses of historians and records from other nations as well as American narratives. This kind of historiography, they argue, leads to a more complete and accurate understanding of history and how it has shaped U.S. foreign relations, global politics in general. As memebers of the CSIHSIS community, we value these methods as they are fully aligned with our Graduate Profile goals of being Academically Prepared, Culturally Aware, Literate for the 21st Century and Aware of World Events and Global Dynamics. (http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&q=csihsis+graduate+profile)
As most of you know, Ms. Kaplan has arranged a learning exchange between CSIHS and a high school in Carvin, France. In an effort to welcome to our French learning exchange partners who are presently studying U.S. History to this blogspace, I thought we could reflect together on one of the major connections among our respective national histories; the struggle for liberty embodied by both the American and French Revolution.
In order to prepare for this week's blog assignment, read the following article outlining similarites and differences among the revolutionary movements in 18th century France and Colonial America:
http://www.pbs.org/marieantoinette/revolution/america_france.html
Then consider the following quotes from the foundational documents of American and French democracy (The Declaration of Independence, and The Declaration of the Rights of Man, respectively.)
The Declaration of Independence, Thomas Jefferson, Et. al., 1776:
"We hold these truths to be self-evident, that all men are created equal, that they are endowed by their Creator with certain unalienable Rights, that among these are Life, Liberty and the pursuit of Happiness. — That to secure these rights, Governments are instituted among Men, deriving their just powers from the consent of the governed, — That whenever any Form of Government becomes destructive of these ends, it is the Right of the People to alter or to abolish it, and to institute new Government, laying its foundation on such principles and organizing its powers in such form, as to them shall seem most likely to effect their Safety and Happiness. Prudence, indeed, will dictate that Governments long established should not be changed for light and transient causes; and accordingly all experience hath shewn that mankind are more disposed to suffer, while evils are sufferable than to right themselves by abolishing the forms to which they are accustomed. But when a long train of abuses and usurpations, pursuing invariably the same Object evinces a design to reduce them under absolute Despotism, it is their right, it is their duty, to throw off such Government, and to provide new Guards for their future security..."
Declaration of the Rights of Man and Citizen, Marquis de Lafayette, 1789:
"1. Men are born and remain free and equal in rights. Social distinctions may be founded only upon the general good.
2 The aim of all political association is the preservation of the natural and imprescriptible rights of man. These rights are liberty, property, security, and resistance to oppression.
3. The principle of all sovereignty resides essentially in the nation. No body nor individual may exercise any authority which does not proceed directly from the nation.
4. Liberty consists in the freedom to do everything which injures no one else; hence the exercise of the natural rights of each man has no limits except those which assure to the other members of the society the enjoyment of the same rights. These limits can only be determined by law.
5. Law can only prohibit such actions as are hurtful to society. Nothing may be prevented which is not forbidden by law, and no one may be forced to do anything not provided for by law.
6. Law is the expression of the general will. Every citizen has a right to participate personally, or through his representative, in its foundation. It must be the same for all, whether it protects or punishes. All citizens, being equal in the eyes of the law, are equally eligible to all dignities and to all public positions and occupations, according to their abilities, and without distinction except that of their virtues and talents."
Reflection Guidelines:
Discuss how the fundamental principles laid out in each declaration have shaped the national identity of the nation where you live. Then explain wether or not you believe these principles are truly reflected in modern-day France and the United States: has society met the demands of your nation's revolutionary pioneers or have paridigms and priorities shifted since the 18th Century? Do you think people around the world would agree with your position on what it means to be a citizen of the United States or France? Provide evidence (anecdotal or academic) to support your answer.
CSIHS students are reminded to comment on at least one other post and write at least 200 words. This blog is due no later than 7 p.m. Sunday, 10/28/07. The deadline has been extended due to techincal delays.
You are all encouraged to include a brief bio or hello to our new online learning community.
35 comments:
Teresa Konopka
AP US
Quick Introduction:
Greetings international visitors! I am Teresa, a soccer-loving American History fanatic. I play the piano and enjoy watching dramatic movies. Do you play any instruments? At my school, history is usually taught with an international scope. How is history taught at your school?
Blog:
Historic preambles follow each other like dominos. The Magna Carta inspired the Declaration of Independence, which subsequently inspired the Declaration of the Rights of Man and Citizen. Focusing in on the Declaration of Independence and the Declaration of the Rights of Man and Citizen, both yearn for independence and a break away from something. Jefferson wishes to break away from Britain, while Marquis de Lafayette wants to break away from absolutism. The Declaration of Independence makes vast contrasts between past and future--“Institute new Government...their Safety and Happiness...But when a long train of abuses and usurpations...to throw off such Government.” England’s colonies, which were abused, are thrown into a new light of majesty and liberty. However, in the Declaration of the Rights of Man and Citizen, rights are drawn out towards constitutional monarchy--“Law is the expression of the general will. Every citizen has a right to participate personally, or through his representative, in its foundation.”
The PBS article “America & France Revolutionary Twins?” circumspectly articulates how the American Revolution and French Revolution are similar. Writing about how each wanted freedom, the author draws both events together. The main difference between both Revolutions, as mentioned in the article, is that the American Revolution was based on representation, while the French Revolution was based on social class structures. After all, in America, Americans were furious when they were taxed without representation; and, in France, the French were tired of being second rate to the high and mighty rich absolutists.
In today’s day and age, the democracy established in America hinders taxation without representation. In France, as well, there is no longer an absolute monarch, and the gap between the rich and poor--although still existent--is not as wide as it used to be. Nowadays, people are more concerned with the environment and political candidates, not insurrections. To be an America in contemporary society is a facet with infinite interpretations, most often the stereotyped Caucasian and obese businessman eating fries. However, there are many other ways to classify Americans. Some consider simply wearing red, white, and blue a symbol of being American.
Question to French visitors:
Do you view Americans as the stereotype mentioned above? Why or why not? Also, do you find it interesting that women protested for rights when the Declaration of Independence and the Declaration of the Rights of Man and Citizen focused mainly on male rights?
John Harden
Block H
Posted: October.27, 2007
My Introduction of myself:
Hi, my name is John Patrick Harden and I absolutely love history. I enjoy German history over all other history because of my strong ethnic German background. I usually spend my time on the social networking system myspace.com or hanging out on my block. Like Teresa said and asked, our school teaches history from an international perspective, what about yours?
Blog posting:
When Thomas Jefferson wrote his first rough “draught” of the Declaration of Independence in 1776, he had the rights for the colonists in mind. The Colonists for a long time were being mistreated by the British in a number of ways. The British were taxing the Colonists even though they had no say in British court or politics. It was reported by shady colonist newspapers that British officers treated the “innocent” colonists unfairly. Whether this was true or not on a majority of occasions, we will never be sure. The point is that the Declaration was written to mainly enact a separation of the colonists from the Imperial British, not so much for creating a new group of unified states. Thomas Jefferson wanted a society where every state and the people in the states had equal rights if they served America to the highest of their ability. He wanted a nation where the people had the ability to pursue happiness without much government interference. This is the true definition of an American, a person who has the ability to start a life for him/herself. I also agree very much so with Teresa’s view of Americans, a largely diverse group of people. Many other countries would disagree with this statement; they view many American’s as brash, outspoken, overweight, morons who overuse their freedom of speech. Nevertheless, the United States of America was originally supposed to be a nation where “...whenever any Form of Government becomes destructive of these ends, it is the Right of the People to alter or to abolish it, and to institute new Government, laying its foundation on such principles and organizing its powers in such form, as to them shall seem most likely to effect their Safety and Happiness.” (Declaration of Independence) In modern day American society this revolutionary attitude is not at all condoned or encouraged. Many historical events in America, such as the recent Civil Rights movements prove this statement true. Civil Rights movements, like the Freedom Rides, were halted by police and the people aboard the buses were arrested for disturbing the peace, whether or not they were being violent. They were arrested by the government for speaking out against the government’s view on racial laws. Yes the civil rights movement succeeded, but the corrupt government officials were not taken out of power for the most part. Many people stayed in jail because of their actions as civil rights activists. Our revolutionary pioneers like Benjamin Franklin, although for the most part, racist, would not agree with the government that held down people based on color to still be in power. One must not forget however, the 1700’s and the 21st century are two very different time periods. The world is much more dangerous, and the American government is currently at war with many different terrorist organizations. If the current governmental body was to be eradicated, all hell would most likely break loose due to the destruction of America’s foundation; which is not its people but its peoples chosen government who protects the people and ensures their “Safety and Happiness”. Or maybe these rebellious actions of overthrowing the government have not been condoned by the citizens of America yet because our leaders have not become corrupt enough to push the people to revolution and keep them from their “Safety and Happiness”.
Hi! On behalf of CSIHSIS I would like to welcome all of our French students to Ms. Francis' blog. We are all excited to learn with you and to learn about your perspectives on United States History. We are hoping that this will further discussion and open communication between all of our students in furtherance of deepening our learning about and understanding of history as well as of one another. We are excited to be part of this international exchange.
Ms. Horowitz
Sarah Berfond
AP US
Joke taken from http://www.jokefile.co.uk/odds/american.html:
Government Verbosity
Pythagorean theorem: 24 words.
Archimedes' Principle: 67 words.
The 10 Commandments: 179 words.
The Gettysburg address: 286 words.
The Declaration of Independence: 1,300 words.
U.S. Government regulations on cabbage sales: 26,911 words.
This section of the Declaration of Independence contains some of the most powerful words ever, strung together into one paragraph. It formed the foundation upon which the United States was built. The fundamental rights referred to in the opening, “life, liberty and the pursuit of happiness” are as important today as they were in the eighteenth century. Although many groups and individuals feel there are problems with the government and society, in the large picture we still have almost unlimited freedoms to speak, pray and live our lives as desired. Over the last three years, the education at CSI has focused on international relations. After studying many countries, I have not read of one form of government that is more open and respectful of individual rights than the United States.
The Declaration of independence went on to say that the acts of revolution should not be undertaken without just cause. “Prudence, indeed, will dictate that Governments long established should not be changed for light and transient causes.” A good example of the United States’ position on this issue was the civil war. The South believed that it was justified in demanding succession from the union but the North did not feel that their issues rose to the level of importance to justify a revolution. Even today there are many groups who support revolutionary ideas; however most do it within the framework of the political process. The peaceful and smooth change of government that occurs after each election is proof that the word in the Declaration of Independence are alive and well in 21st century America.
Response to Teresa's Comment- I agree with Teresa's contrasts between the American and French Revolutions and her explanation of American's today. Before American History class, I believed that the French and American Revolutions were similar in many ways. After reading PBS article, I now understand the immense differences between the two events. Outsiders often stereotype Americans as greedy, money hungry people when this is not the case. America is made up of free individuals that have the power to express contrasting opinions and beliefs.
Ian Murphy
AP US History
Block H
Introduction: Hello, I am Ian Murphy, a member of the CSIHSIS learning community, where we offer advanced placement in the study of American history. I just wanted to note that by the time this post is received, I will no longer take part in AP US History, having opted to take regular History instead. I will not go into details here due to my post’s precious space.
Nations across the world today have had their identities based upon certain fundamental principles, some of which that have been established in the form of a written document. For example, the Declaration of Independence, written primarily by Thomas Jefferson in 1776 during the American Revolution, proclaimed that the 13 colonies would govern themselves rather than be governed by Great Britain. Another document called the Declaration of the Rights of Man, written by Marquis de Lafayette in 1789 during the French Revolution, opted for the transition from an absolute to a constitutional one. As a citizen of the United States, it is my belief that certain principles of the Declaration of Independence are reflected in our society today, while others are not. The Declaration states that “all men are created equal, that they are endowed by their Creator with certain unalienable Rights, that among these are Life, Liberty and the pursuit of Happiness.” This statement, which may be one of the most important statements in the document, has intertwined so greatly with the United States’ national identity that it is carried out subconsciously by citizens every day. However, other principles state that citizens have the right to abolish any form of government when its tactics grow questionable. Although events during the 19th Century, such as the Civil War, were spurred by such a statement, such a plan has yet to be put into action today. With these put into consideration, and many people would have to admit this, the fact that we do not follow documents such as the Declaration of Independence shows that our nation has evolved since its inception. This is most certainly true for other nations; the Declaration of the Rights of Man turned France into the constitutional monarchy it strove to be, yet it has developed into a republic. Despite these differences, the documents upon which national identities are based continue to have an influence in our lives to this day.
Block H
AP US History
Michelle Shed
Introduction of Myself:
Hi, everyone! My name is Michelle. I'm just your average anime loving sixteen-year-old girl. I hope you guys like our school when you come to visit. You'll be taught to think by an international perspective. =]
The Blog:
PBS's "America & France: Revolutionary Twins?" outlines the fact that even though America's The Declaration of Independence and France's The Declaration of the Rights of Man and of the Citizen were similar in time and causes, both documents are different when it comes to the goals. The colonists desired freedom from British imperialism, freedom to pay taxes to the British, as well as freedom to establish their own government. The Bourgeoisie was furious that they had to pay taxes while the nobility hardly paid any. Although both situations related in independence and economic issues, the colonists wanted freedom from the British while French peasants wanted the abolishment of social classes.
"We hold these truths to be self-evident, that all men are created equal, that they are endowed by their Creator with certain unalienable Rights, that among these are Life, Liberty and the pursuit of Happiness." The type of government America has today is influenced from Thomas Jefferson's The Declaration of Independence. In America, a person is innocent until proven guilty and there is an equal distribution of power, the Executive, Legislative, and Judicial Branch.
As for France, the government of France is determined by the Constitution of the Fifth Republic as "an indivisible, secular, democratic, and social Republic." "Men are born and remain free and equal in rights. Social distinctions may be founded only upon the general good."
When I think of social, I think of socialism. If France considers itself a social Republic with democratic principles, then it must mean that France is not discriminating against different social classes. All social classes are treated equal.
Yet, what's interesting today is that the British and the United States, enemies during the 18th century, are both strong allies. Great Britain supported America to fight in Iraq and America was a great help to the British during WWII. Our countries are both super power countries with the same democratic beliefs and principles.
In order to be a citizen of the United States of America, you have to either be born in the country or pass the citizenship test. Basically, the average citizen of America goes to school, pays their taxes when they turn of age, gets married, has a family, retires at 65, and receives pension and Social Security from the government.
America fought hard for their independence from the British and as a result, America is a super power nation. France fought for the abolishment of an absolute monarchy. As a result, France is also classified as a super power nation.
Either way, both countries national identities reflect the Revolutions that they went through.
Hey, I'm Heather Alexis Vale and I love to read and write. I'm a reporter for our school's newspaper, the International Insider. I can't wait to hear from you all.
The Declaration of Independence, a well known document created by the Founding Fathers, brought America to understand the importance of individuality. We all naturally have self-determination, self-guidance, self-esteem, self-serving, etc. Yet in America, we have learned through experience that working as a team, a group, a confederation can withstand others from overpowering us. Currently, America is home to so many different backgrounds, as the Declaration of Independence helped do so many years ago.
In order to build a house, you must have a stabled ground to work on. Without a sturdy foundation, the house will have a higher chance of falling apart. The Declaration of Independence stands as our foundation, and America stands as our house. The Declaration of the Rights of Man and Citizen is the foundation for the French, as France is their home. These two important documents take justice to the next level, as they take a leap of faith to change their society. The process to change is unbelievably nerve-racking, as you have the past to compare with the present. However I believe change is absolutely necessary, as it unfolds new paths to be taken and new doors to be opened.
The opportunities in this world are endless, at least in America. The Declaration of Independence was able to take the basic principles of freedom and mold the national identity of Americans today. As Americans, we are individually fierce and determined in society. As Sam had mentioned, due to the Declaration of Independence, Americans have this high sense of reassurance that the government will make sure their needs and wants are fulfilled. The Declaration of Independence clearly states, “That whenever any Form of Government becomes destructive of these ends, it is the Right of the People to alter or to abolish it, and to institute new Government, laying its foundation on such principles and organizing its powers in such form, as to them shall seem most likely to effect their Safety and Happiness.”
The Declaration of Independence is vaguely reflected in American society today. Indeed we agree that, “We hold these truths to be self-evident, that all men are created equal, that they are endowed by their Creator with certain unalienable Rights that among these are Life, Liberty and the pursuit of Happiness”. Yet there seems to be two types of Americans today, those that believe we live in a corrupt, doomed society, and those that believe we live in a friendly, free society. I believe that as Americans we should be aware of what is happening inside and outside of our country. As a result, we should be actively participating in our government, as we the people do have a voice. As time goes by, Americans are beginning to forget who we are, and what America is all about. America is about the people, yet America can’t be America if the people are not willing voice their opinion. Perhaps Americans are too wrapped up in their daily routine to remember the Declaration of Independence and to act on its specific rights promised.
Justin Lefkowitz
AP US History
H Block
Introduction: Hey. My name is Justin, but you can call me Lefty. I love to play all sports. I used to play basketball for the school’s team, The CSIHSIS Dragons. I chose not to play this year because I am taking AP US History. I am going to France in February with the school. For any French girls in this blog, I am extremely good-looking. Hope you all enjoy the blogs. If you French students have Facebooks or Myspace look us up.
American history has changed so much over the course of the last two and a quarter centuries. The American History has changed so much that even our Declaration of Independence does not even properly show who America is as a country or how Americans are seen as a group of “equal people.” Besides the Constitution, the Declaration of Independence, written by Thomas Jefferson and eventually passed by Congress in 1776, is probably looked at to be the most shaping document of American society. The Declaration of Independence was written to show a basis for what American society should look like, without Great Britain being involved in the mix.
"We hold these truths to be self-evident, that all men are created equal, that they are endowed by their Creator with certain unalienable Rights, that among these are Life, Liberty and the pursuit of Happiness.” This line of the U.S. Declaration of Independence portrays the United States as a perfectly free and equal country. When I say perfectly free and equal country, I am talking about nobody being put down I society. This includes no racism or prejudice towards certain groups of people. If somebody looks at American society today, they will see that there is racism and prejudice all over.
If I was from a foreign country and I read the Declaration of Independence, I would say that the U.S. is a perfect country. But, if we read another countries basis for society, we would probably say the same thing that they say about ours. For example, the Declaration of the Rights of Man and Citizen by Marquis de Lafayette shows us the French version of a combination between the U.S. Declaration of Independence and the U.S. Constitution. "1. Men are born and remain free and equal in rights. Social distinctions may be founded only upon the general good.” The first right of the French Declaration of Rights of Man and Citizen includes the same information as the first lines of the U.S. Declaration of Independence. Now this poses a huge question. Like U.S. society in today’s world, does France also have racism and prejudice in their society? If the answer is yes, then we can conclude that the basis for society has definitely changed over the passed couple of centuries.
After looking at Teresa’s blog, I am led to think the same questions as her. Do we as Americans fit any specific stereotypes? How do the French portray American politics and society? How is racism and prejudice seen in French society? These questions can decide the way that I feel about documents such as the Declaration of Rights of Man and Citizen.
Sam Murphy
AP US
Hello, my name is Sam. I enjoy listening to music and speaking Japanese. I am very interested in Japan, and I hope to go there.
The American and French revolution, being a little less than two decades apart, doubtless influenced one another. The French played a large role in the American Revolution, and both of the countries had been under the control of a dictator for years, as was written in the article on the PBS website. However, both nations evolved differently after their revolutions. The principals laid out in the Declaration of Independence have shaped American society into a nation which believes that the government is and always will be a refraction of the people's wants and needs. However, the government is not always a refraction of the people's needs, and the Declaration of Independence has almost become a point of overconfidence in the government. However, the needs of the people have not shifted since the 18th century; it is the poiticians in charge of administering those needs that have changed. If the government would stick more closely to the law and not be as corrupt, then the Untied States would not be in many of the situations it is now. Many people around the world would probably not agree with this stance on America because they see America as a utopia. This keeps them from realizing the truths about America, and it keeps American citizens from understanding thier country fully. Until people realize what America has become. As Sarah said, the Declaration states that just cause is needed for a revolution, so the question remains: would a revolution, violent or otherwise, be nessecary to change America to how the Founding Fathers wanted it?
Jeremy Smith
APUS
Quick Introduction: Bonjour! Je m'appelle Jeremy! I used to take French for a few years, but now I take Japanese in my school. I play guitar with my band, The Bystanders. I like history, especially United States history. The U.S.'s history is so short, but very, very interesting. Other than that, I hope to meet you all soon. For now, au revoir.
Blog: The Declaration of Independence is one of the first documents within United States history. Thomas Jefferson includes all of the Continental Congresses' representatives' ideas that take form of both complaints and demands. The Declaration puts forward that the newly founded United States of America are not “dependant” on the British anymore. Colonists suffered for many years from different acts by both Parliament and the British. Such acts include the Stamp Act, the Tea Act, the Townshend Revenue Acts, and the Intolerable Acts. Within the second paragraph of the Declaration of Independence, Thomas Jefferson details the early creation of the United States of America, and it’s breaking off of ties with Britain. “We hold these Truths to be self-evident, that all Men are created equal, that they are endowed by their Creator with certain unalienable Rights, that among these are Life, Liberty, and the pursuit of Happiness. That to secure these rights, Governments are instituted among Men, deriving their just Powers from the Consent of the Governed.” This selection from the Declaration means that the newly independent American government would be for the people and by the people, becoming a democracy. Without this last devotion of the voices of the colonists, the United States may not have been a democracy, nor would it be independent.
Elizabeth Che
Block H
Introduction: Greetings! As noted above, my name is Elizabeth and like Michelle, I love anime and drawing.
Blog Posting:
Although both revolutionary movements in 18th century France and Colonial America were examples of the underpowered against the powerful, they both had differences as well as similarities. As described in the PBS article, “America & France Revolutionary Twins?” both France’s lower class and the American colonists were taxed by the monarch as a source of economic finance. But, the colonists were more angered at the fact that there were no benefits for them than the taxation in general; whereas the lower classes in the French social class system were being mistreated. Thus initiating the rebellions for what the citizens wanted.
As PBS states, “The American Revolution was not initially or even primarily fought for Independence. Independence almost became a “by-product” of the colonists’ initial attempt to remove unfair taxes levied on them by British Parliament.” Meanwhile, the republic established by the French Revolution was an initial product from the rebellions. The American colonies were able to create a separate government and nation whereas the French changed their government from hereditary monarchy to a republic. Still, it was not without documents and the support of a large minority to achieve such outcomes.
The Declaration of Independence drafted by Thomas Jefferson in 1776 describes how “all men are created equal ... with certain unalienable Rights, that among these are Life, Liberty and the pursuit of Happiness.” But, the concept of happiness is different from today’s society than that of the 18th century. The advance of technology had caused expectations to be higher and so, satisfactory is harder to achieve. The colonists were mainly happy just having property but, in today’s world, the “pursuit of happiness” comes with troubles that are difficult to fulfill such as economics. As John mentioned in his post, “the wold is much more dangerous...” with the sense of threat, security is to be naturally tightened, and so limiting what the citizens can and can’t do. For example, the carrying of liquids on the airplanes, true, such measures are to increase the safety of the passengers, but it also creates troubles as passengers who wish to bring liquid based materials are to come up with another way to meet their own needs. Furthermore, the “Right of the People to alter it or to abolish it, and to institute new Government, laying its foundations on such principles and organizing its powers in such form, as to them shall seem most likely to effect their Safety and Happiness” as indicated by Declaration of Independence seems irrelevant in today’s society. Even with a majority of disapprovals, the government does not wish to loose their power as would anyone else who possesses power over others. So, in times of crisis, the government which has its faults, can only guarantee as much “Safety and Happiness” as they can see fit without having to loose their authority.
Meanwhile the Declaration of the Right of Man and Citizen by Marquis de Lafayette in 1789 follow similar aspects of the Declaration of Independence such as the aspect of equality; “Men are born and remain free and equal in rights...” Despite such notable wordings in both documents, equality is not all reserved. Through such long periods of time, one would expect the world to learn about accepting differences and viewing each other as equals, yet, trouble is created due to unequal views. Conflicts between different nationalities or races are all too common. The Bourgeoisie of the past and the rich of the future sill maintains the upper hand in society, leaving the middle and lower classes to dwindle about in their everyday lives. Had their been true equality, economic standards would not be needed and the chances for each individual should be the same.
As Heather had mentioned, “there seems to be two types of Americans today, those what believe we live in a corrupt, doomed society, and those that believe we live in a friendly, free society.” In my opinion, those who are not receiving their justified equality are doomed and those who are happily going about are the ones that are free. Depending on the economical status, life is already set no matter where you go and it all depends on whether one chooses to follow it or make one’s own path.
Ashley Aydin.
AP U.S.
Block H.
Introduction:
Hello! My name is Ashley Aydin. I especially enjoy reading, writing, painting, traveling, and, playing football ;] Additionally, I am intrigued by distinct cultures and lifestyles. I traveled to France last year, and plan on returning this winter. It surely tops one of my favorite visits!
Blog Response:
“In every stage of these oppressions we have petitioned for redress in the most humble terms; our repeated petitions have been answered by repeated injury. A prince, whose character is thus marked by every act which may define a tyrant, is unfit to be the ruler of a people who mean to be free. Future ages will scarce believe that the hardiness of one man, adventured within the short compass of 12 years only, on so many acts of tyranny without a mask, over a people fostered and fixed in principles of liberty.” - The Declaration of Independence
The foundations of contemporary American and French society were justly based on the hardship and oppression each of the countries’ citizens had to face over prolonged occasions. The constant need and desire to become free/ liberated individuals has always been a main concern of the United States and France. Consequently, individuals from both states have become fond of the drive that led to their nation’s modern prominence and power.
During the American and French Revolutions, the populaces were left unaided and lacking of freedom and morale. The higher bodies in society, such as legislative officials, monarchs, and wealthy aristocrats, dominated the lands. Both, the French and Americans, were unable to practice equality and/or personal privilege. Harshly, citizens were overlooked and further forced to conform to what the foremost powers proposed.
As Thomas Paine, in The Declaration of the Right of Man, puts it, “Freedom had been hunted round the globe; reason was considered as rebellion; and the slavery of fear had made men afraid to think. But such is the irresistible nature of truth, that all it asks, and all it wants, is the liberty of appearing.”
Debates on rights and abilities were the most significant topics during both times of revolution. Were Americans really fighting against taxes? Why did they feel so strongly about independence from the Britain? Did the French see the countless opportunities they would gain through rebellion?
Maximilien Robespierre, a pioneer of the French Revolution, captured the voice of the voice of the French population
in his Declaration Des
Droits De L'homme.
"Any law which violates the inalienable rights of man is essentially unjust and tyrannical; it is not a law at all."
Time, although measured and intricate, came in the favor of the American and French. Today, the United States and France are more influential/potent than ever before. Through struggle and fight, both nations have succeeded and flourished. Accordingly, each population worked hard to obtain their aims, only succeeding in due course.
*Elizabeth’s response explains how crucial status was during the American and French Revolutions. Economics added to the tension, creating great divides between the poor and rich. Certainly, this proved another aspect that fueled both revolutions. The citizens of America and France were not likely of accepting tyranny and corruption.
Hey! My name is Liana, and I'm a proud member of the CSIHSIS community. I’m involved in Journalism, Model United Nations, Key Club and the Photography club. My interests include coffee and tea of all kinds, soccer, local music and singing. Can’t wait to hear from you
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Honestly, the connection between European history and American history becomes to prevalent in these two documents. As Teresa so eloquently put it, historical preambles do indeed follow each other like dominoes. The first lines of the Declaration of Independence and the Declaration of Rights of Citizen and Man echo each other loud and clear.
“We hold these truths to be self-evident, that all men are created equal, that they are endowed by their Creator with certain unalienable Rights, that among these are Life, Liberty and the pursuit of Happiness.”(Franklin) “Men are born and remain free and equal in rights. Social distinctions may be founded only upon the general good.” (de Lafayette)
However, I feel one part of our Declaration no longer holds true in our society. “That whenever any Form of Government becomes destructive of these ends, it is the Right of the People to alter or to abolish it, and to institute new Governmentlaying its foundation on such principles and organizing its powers in such form, as to them shall seem most likely to effect their Safety and Happiness. Prudence, indeed, will dictate that Governments long established should not be changed for light and transient causes; and accordingly all experience hath shewn that mankind are more disposed to suffer, while evils are sufferable than to right themselves by abolishing the forms to which they are accustomed.” (Franklin)
In today’s society, when people peacefully protest, the police are often times in a hurry to disperse the crowd. The right to assemble is one of our freedoms outlined in the American Constitution. The American people have been protesting for much longer than most people know. We were consistent in our attempts at enforcing positive change so that we can live in a democratic society today and through our perseverance we prevailed. If we can’t uphold that basic right alone, is our government deemed changeable?
Another thing that particularly disturbs me is the cost and controversy that surrounds the amending of the constitution. If society were a season, it’d be autumn. Its themes are ever changing. The Constitution should be subject to change as well, until this day - in one of the most advanced countries in the world we haven’t changed the opening line of the Declaration of Independence to all men and women are created equal
I am sure that I am not the only one who becomes, at the least, disgruntled by these things. I don’t believe that people are aware that it is legal for us to change the government. The government should be working towards the good of the people, and in my opinion, it has taken a short hiatus from doing its aforementioned duties.
On the other hand, or yi bian , for all of you mandarin students, Democracy has been the most perfect form of government ever instated in the United States. It's worked well for almost three centuries now. Maybe people are afraid by tampering with a good thing, democracy could turn sour.
Dominique D. Johnson
Block H. AP U.S. history
October 27, 2007
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Bonjour! My name is Dominique Noel-Johnson. I love history as well as reading and writing. I am the News Editor of the International Insider. I am very excited about having more foreign students come to our school. I know a little bit of French, but my mother speaks the language fluently.
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The American Declaration of Independence in 1776 and the French Declaration of Rights of Man and Citizens in 1789 are rather similar in the sense that each addresses freedom. As far as following what was written in the Declaration of Independence, history has shown that America failed to practice what was written. “…all men are created equal & independent, that from the equal creation they derive rights inherent & inalienable, among which are the preservation of life, & liberty, & pursuit of happiness,” (Declaration of Independence 1776). Nonetheless, this statement failed to reflect on the slaves that were already in America.
Although the Declaration of Independence speaks on freedom and liberty for all, I can’t exclude the fact that many Americans failed to it. In fact as Heather suggested, there are two kinds of Americans today. There are those who believe that America is free, friendly, and giving and those who acknowledge the truth about America as being a doomed, world hated country.
The Declaration of Independence was created as to capture the values of the people who were tired of Britain. However; I think that society has forgotten the struggle it took America to be independent and free. Society has also forgotten the words of the Declaration of Independence that made America.
Hi my name is Margaret Scalesci and I go to CSI High School for International Studies. CSI is a small school located on the college campus of Staten Island. I’m glad that I go to this school because it is different than most other schools. I love learning about other countries and their cultures and lifestyles.
The Declaration of Independence is a powerful and important document that helped form the United States a long time ago. When reading these words throughout this paragraph it seems so unreal that this was written before America was officially united. Life, Liberty, and the Pursuit of Happiness are important things to want in life and are just as important in today’s world as they were in the eighteenth century. These words are still strong and are the sort of motto of the United States. They will also live on for as long as the world exists. Some people in America feel that it is a horrible country and they disagree with everything. They might also feel that the people in Government positions aren’t doing the right things or what they are supposed to. But what is important to think about is how great a country we are and thankful we should be for all of the freedoms that we have. We have it better then many other countries. For example North Korea is pretty much a Communist dictatorship and some people should really think about how they live in America. I think that they would much rather live in America then North Korea. Every aspect of the lives of North Koreans is controlled and they must follow everything that they are told without any question. The ideas of the Declaration of Independence are not seen as much in today’s world as it was when it was written. The principles of the Declaration aren’t reflected in modern day society. Also when I read the Declaration of the Rights of Man and Citizen I saw the part about equality and freedom. I don’t know much about modern day French society but I do believe that it is much like America. I don’t think that people are treated equally because in today’s world and at any other time in history there is always a person that isn’t treated like everyone else. Even though this document says that the people of France are treated equally I think that the writers of this document just added this information. No matter what time in history there will be unequally and there is nothing that anyone can do because if it hasn’t changed by now it never will and it is something that we just have to accept.
In response to Sarah’s comment I really liked that joke that you put in the beginning of your writing. I think that it is ironic because the most important things are shorter but the least important thing about cabbage is so unendingly long.
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Bonjour, My name is Jakub and I am addicted to history. I enjoy playing basketball and working out in my spare time. I took French in junior high school and I was fascinated by the French language and its history. I cannot wait to meet you guys and share our thoughts on American history.
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Hey! I'm Kasey, and I usually post my blogs late. That's really it, I guess. Hope you enjoy the blog!
The ideals that the United States was founded on were conditioned by the events of that time, as all ideals are. Many of these, however, become increasingly obsolete as time goes on.
Today, for example, any group that attempts to break away from its country's current government is considered illegal. To justify the break of the colonies away from Britain, though, the Declaration of Independence clearly states: "whenever any Form of Government becomes destructive of these ends, it is the Right of the People to alter or to abolish it, and to institute new Government."
There are many modern-day citizens who would break from the United States in an instant if given the chance, and could legally justify it based upon the Declaration. Why, then, is not possible for this to happen today?
The ideals presented in the Declaration of Independence are precisely that - ideals. There is very little in that document that modern governments would use as a basis of rule. Although a very pretty basis for a government system where "the people" rule, it is largely ineffective and untrue.
As Justin said, "If I was from a foreign country and I read the Declaration of Independence, I would say that the U.S. is a perfect country." Simply examing the documents that a country is based upon cannot give one a true sense of what real life in that country is like.
Hello international viewers! My name is Jaclyn Nicole Mallozzi, but most people call me Jackie and I am sixteen years old. I play basketball and soccer and I love photography, traveling, and music.
At first glance, it is already apparent that there are some major similarities between the French and American revolutions that were fought “several years and an ocean apart.” The goal of both revolutions was to gain freedom and a new and improved life. Although there are similarities, there are also distinct differences. A similarity is that both countries began a revolution due to poor economic conditions, however, the situations in each country was different. America faced struggle from taxes by the British, while France was struggling to pay off national debts.
In addition to the similarities between the American and French Revolutions, there are also similarities between the Declaration of Independence and the Declaration of the Rights of Man and Citizen. The main goal of both documents was freedom and security. They both stated that the government was to ensure these rights. In addition, the Declaration of the Rights of Man and Citizen says, “Each man has no limits except those which assure to the other members of the society the enjoyment of the same rights,” and the Declaration of independence says, “when a long train of abuses and usurpations, pursuing invariably the same Object evinces a design to reduce them under absolute Despotism, it is their right, it is their duty, to throw off such Government.” Both of these quotes are saying that everyone should be free, but at the same time they can’t interrupt anyone else’s freedom.
The ideas from the Declaration of Independence when written on paper seem great, and something every country would love to have. I’m pretty sure most people would agree that we’ve had it pretty well in America with all of our freedoms compared to other countries, but then again most people are never satisfied. All of the rights in the Declaration are ones that cannot be followed through at all times. There is really no way to make sure that the government is obeying the guidelines our forefathers wrote for us. As Kasey said, the United States is presented as a country where “the people” rule. On the contrary, that is untrue because when push comes to shove, the government overrules the people.
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The fundamental principles laid out in the Declaration of Independence (1776) and the Declaration of the rights of Man and citizens have shaped the national identity of the United States. One principle of the Declaration of Independence was the unalienable rights, rights unable to be taken away, that every man has, and another principle was the right of man to rebel against a tyrannical or unjust government. After the American Revolution (1775-1783), many worked to secure these principles, and as a result, citizens have many rights that non U.S citizens don’t. Also, arguably, the U.S government has always been afraid of the citizens because of fear of rebellion. The French document which emphasized equality a little more than the Declaration of Independence gained positive U.S citizen support. U.S citizens have grown up to believe they live in a nation whose government is afraid of them and provides more rights than any other nation
Being a citizen of the U.S means believing everything listed in the Declaration of Independence and other documents like the Bill of Rights (1791). People around the world would agree with me, as all citizens should believe in what their constitution or whatever documents their nation’s government follows. If they don’t, these people should work for change in their nation or leave it. Why should an individual stay in a nation whose fundamental principles don’t appeal to that individual?
Although, these fundamental principles are not truly reflected in modern day U.S. “We hold these truths to be self-evident, that all men are created equal, that they are endowed by their Creator with certain unalienable Rights,” states the Declaration of Independence, “that among these are Life, Liberty and the pursuit of Happiness.” This fundamental principle is only partially true today. Citizens do have the same rights and for the most part are treated as equals. For example, just recently the black man can now have an education and a chance for a luxurious lifestyle. Though, this leads to my main complaint. Everyone is not equal, as some people have powers that others don’t. For example, a rich man can basically buy himself out of trouble through the hiring of lawyers, paying bail, or bribing, but the poor don’t have this power. Even though this is an abuse of power, this still highlights how much power some individuals have, and money is the perfect example of inequality. Some might say that everyone is given the chance to succeed in the U.S. Though, this is only partially true. For instance, it’s much harder for a poor person to perform this task because of the money required to do so. College is very expensive, and thus, U.S society favors the already rich to succeed and become richer. For instance, a rich person can go through school barely passing and can still go through college, obtain a well paying job and overall succeed but only because of money. A poor person who obtains a much higher average throughout school may sadly have to drop out in order to help support his family. Scholarships are available, but these are very hard to obtain. Obviously, the poor one is more deserving of a better lifestyle, but it is the rich one who will obtain it.
Besides inequality in the U.S, citizens don’t even rebel against an unjust government. For instance, when privacy rights were restricted people didn’t and still is not rebelling against it. The action was unjust and unconstitutional. Though, citizens still are not doing much about privacy restrictions, because citizens were told that restricting privacy would help prevent terrorism which arguably can never stop. The propaganda that was used on citizens was an abuse of power by the U.S government.
Paradigms and priorities shifted since the 18th Century. It seems that after the American Revolution, the government was more worried about rising in power than improving equality to all. Proof of this is Western Expansion, U.S expansion to the West, which helped the economy a great deal. Though, this negatively affected the Natives in the area, as they were chased from their homes by a nation supposedly promoting equality. It’s very hypocritical that the U.S abused its power to expand its borders, as the U.S rebelled against Great Britain for abusing its power and unjustly setting laws in the states such as taxation. In the eyes of the U.S government, it’s okay to abuse power, but only if, you’re the U.S!
Overall, fundamental principles laid out in the Declaration of Independence have shaped the national identity of the United States, but in modern day U.S, there is still unjust laws and much inequality. The founding fathers showed their hypocrisy for helping write the Declaration of Independence, which preached equability among other things and then allowing many inequalities like slavery still exist in the U.S. Today, most U.S citizens believe they’re all equal, but they’re not as social classes prove. The Declaration of Independence still shows U.S hypocrisy, and it’s a shame. The following quote refers to King George, but I believe it can also refer to the U.S government. “He has refused his Assent to Laws, the most wholesome and necessary for the public good,” states the Declaration of Independence.
I agree with Jackie that the ideas in the Declaration of Independence do seem great on paper. It's sad that these ideas are not really true though.
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Bonjour, My name is Jakub and I am addicted to history because our course shows us the pros and cons of American History, not just the pros. I enjoy playing basketball and working out in my spare time. I took French in junior high school and I was fascinated by the French language and its history. I cannot wait to meet you guys and share our thoughts on American history.
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The fundamental principles laid out in each declaration has shaped the national identity of both the French and Americans during time of revolution. Through out American history the citizens of the United States have been fighting for one thing and one thing only; freedom. This world, along with other synonyms and words that fit into the same category, have been overused in America since the colonial times. Colonial documents such as the Declaration of Independence is a perfect example of what we did to change something we didn't like. Today, however, the word freedom has turned into propaganda. Many of the things our politicians do has to do with freedom. We are in Iraq because of freedom. This term has been extremely over used and it's pathetic that our people believe that we are at war because our freedom is in danger. But who's going to take away our freedom? A bunch of terrorists who's fighting style is as old as the colonists? It's a pity that we are fighting something that we cannot defeat. The saddest part is that we aren't doing anything about it. What people like Thomas Jefferson and George Washington fought for in the 18th century we are still fighting for the same thing. The key figures of the colonial times can be viewed as hero's or as losers. They are viewed as hero's because they began this country and fought for what was right. But in the meantime they have started what America has used as an excuse to fight for, like the War in Iraq for example. I don't know exact detail about the French Revolution but i presume it is the same as the American Revolution. Besides both being revolutions, these two acts oceans apart have not much in common. Both were struggling at the time. However, America was oppressed by the British while the French had a national problem. All in all, the positions of the colonists still influence American politics today and many see it as a good thing, while I think it is time to change perspectives.
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Both Thomas Jefferson’s Declaration of Independence and Marquis de Lafayette’s Declaration of the Rights of Man and Citizen contributed to the shaping of the fundamental principles of the American identity. American citizens, as well as citizens of countries all over the world have been provided with this perception of America as “the home of the free”. This common perception was created thanks to both Jefferson and Lafayette. They both emphasized the importance of liberty and personal rights to freedom in their declarations. In the Declaration of Independence, Jefferson laid out some principles for the United States that do and do not apply to the United States today. One example is the guaranteed rights of “Life, Liberty and the pursuit of Happiness.” Every citizen of the United States today is still guaranteed these rights. However, the right to “alter or abolish” a corrupt government no longer exists. Modern day American society has met the demands of the American revolutionary pioneers, as well as shifted because of paradigm and priority shifts since the 18th century. The same rights that the Americans fought for and stressed the importance of during the American Revolution are still emphasized today; however, translations are often subject to change. The Declaration of Independence was written way back in 1776 and at that time the lingo was somewhat different from the modern English language; therefore, the meaning of some words could be debated. As the fundamental principles have varying interpretations of the laid laws and foundation, so does the term “American citizen.” There’s no one definition to pin down as the right interpretation of being an American citizen. Personally, I consider an American citizen to be a person living in the Untied States, who values the fundamental principles while embracing the concept of liberty, which they apply to everyday life and emphasize the importance of. However, my view is not very common in the global perception of American citizens.
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I come from France.
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